In their quest to lift up people who have been oppressed, Democrats are alienating men and businesses and not focusing enough on ensuring government delivers results, Govs. Gavin Newsom and Tim Walz said on the latest episode of the California governor’s podcast.

As a wounded Democratic Party struggles to regroup, California Gov. Gavin Newsom is holding mostly chummy conversations with prominent conservatives on a new podcast he’s touting as a way for the party to grapple with the MAGA movement’s popularity.

Since launching his new podcast two weeks ago, Democratic California Gov. Gavin Newsom has taken aim at a number of progressive cultural causes: He’s rejected the term “Latinx,” said he doesn’t back trans women competing in women’s sports,